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Post subject: Can somebody tell this FFI Goon Haik Monsieur?
I read this at FFI from this goon:
"Haik Monsieur
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:49 am Post subject:
Dear Forummers,
This thread is reserved for serious discussions with Knowledgeable Muslims. (Emphasis on Knowledgeable) In two of my posts in this thread, I challenge all Muslims to define adultery in Islamic context. If you are a Muslim, you are welcome to post only if you are confident enough on meeting my challenge. Otherwise please do not disturb the thread with silly repartees. Whatever uncalled for will consequently get removed from the thread without any notification.
I have a thread in Islam Questioned and Defended section and I wish it to be sticky for some time. Not more than a couple of weeks by all means. The reason for this request is it is a challenge to all Muslims to define adultery which they can not do (take my words for it dear M) I need more knowedgeable Muslims to come answer me in my post. There are two posts of mine. One opening post and another addendum.
If this is not against the rules of our forum, please keep this sticky for a couple of weeks and let us see how many Muslims dare to answer me: The link for the post is below:
Can somebody go and tell this FFI goon that Qur'aan uses the word Zina.
Zina covers all sorts of fucking. lmao! The kid is talking about adultery and does not know the words fucking, fornication, etc.
Looks like Haik Monsieur is also like Ali Sina who discusses Qur'aan using translations in English.
This Jesusarian should be dismissed. lol
BMZ
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Thu 13 Nov, 2008 2:37 pm
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This guy is a freak man, there is no need for us to play useless ping pong game with a man who admiitted that he is working on a scheme that they cannot allow any Muslim argument to win
Take care
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Fri 14 Nov, 2008 6:55 am
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Look bro what this freak claims on FFI:
Haik Monsieur wrote:
We in FFI have a schema and to accomplish it, I can�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t let your arguments win.
Haik Monsieur wrote:
After all, have you had a serene moment in your recent life to think what is FFI aiming for?Idiot; we never concealed our aim. Our aim is to destroy Islam.
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Thu 20 Nov, 2008 8:13 pm
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Look mate what low life freak HM just said on FFI:
Haik Monsieur wrote:
Do you know about manipulating? I am a manipulator if you want to know. And I manipulate nothing else but your holy book.
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Mon 24 Nov, 2008 6:41 pm
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Look mate what low life freak HM just said on FFI:
Haik Monsieur wrote:
Do you know about manipulating? I am a manipulator if you want to know. And I manipulate nothing else but your holy book.
Yes, I have read all the exchanges and was glad to see that just two Muslims took him to task and demolished his fabrications.
I was also happy to see All_Brains' conclusive post which silenced Haik Monsieur.
Well done, Ahmed.
Salaams
BMZ
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Wed 10 Dec, 2008 1:25 pm
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BMZ wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Look mate what low life freak HM just said on FFI:
Haik Monsieur wrote:
Do you know about manipulating? I am a manipulator if you want to know. And I manipulate nothing else but your holy book.
Yes, I have read all the exchanges and was glad to see that just two Muslims took him to task and demolished his fabrications.
I was also happy to see All_Brains' conclusive post which silenced Haik Monsieur.
Well done, Ahmed.
Salaams
BMZ
Look mate
My prediction regarding HM of FFI, that he is a confused freak in his late 20s or early 30s, he is so confused and manipulated that in no way he can be at par with any knowledgeable Muslim
I have silenced him many times btw, and when he is cornered he quickly resort to the man made crap of hearsay hadith which mean an invitable dismissal by me, he is in the list of life dismissals of FFI on this web site, i.e. he is ignored unless he says something that is way beyond stupidity that must be exposed
Take care
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Wed 10 Dec, 2008 1:31 pm
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
BMZ wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Look mate what low life freak HM just said on FFI:
Haik Monsieur wrote:
Do you know about manipulating? I am a manipulator if you want to know. And I manipulate nothing else but your holy book.
Yes, I have read all the exchanges and was glad to see that just two Muslims took him to task and demolished his fabrications.
I was also happy to see All_Brains' conclusive post which silenced Haik Monsieur.
Well done, Ahmed.
Salaams
BMZ
Look mate
My prediction regarding HM of FFI, that he is a confused freak in his late 20s or early 30s, he is so confused and manipulated that in no way he can be at par with any knowledgeable Muslim
I have silenced him many times btw, and when he is cornered he quickly resort to the man made crap of hearsay hadith which mean an invitable dismissal by me, he is in the list of life dismissals of FFI on this web site, i.e. he is ignored unless he says something that is way beyond stupidity that must be exposed
Take care
Yes, I noticed that.
After going through the topics and the exchanges, I found out that the other Muslim poster Tawasaubilhaq caught him right in the act of copying and pasting from a Shia site, which of course has it's own polemic material ready against all other Muslims.
My guess is that Haik Monsieur is acting as an ex-Shia Muslim who was never a serious Muslim at all. No real ex-Muslim will ever talk so bad against his former religion.
Haik Monsieur is like Ali Sina who does not understand Arabic at all. I am glad to see you guys demolishing and dismissing him.
Salaams
BMZ
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Wed 10 Dec, 2008 3:52 pm
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BMZ wrote:
No real ex-Muslim will ever talk so bad against his former religion.
He is an ex-muslim, or at least that is what he claims.
When I started reading FFI, he used to be amongst one of the most polite and respectful posters there, but since the past few months he has morphed into a hateful poster, a potty mouth. One of the reasons I do not post anymore there.
Regards,
Kafir.
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Fri 12 Dec, 2008 7:41 am
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Kafir-Harbi wrote:
BMZ wrote:
No real ex-Muslim will ever talk so bad against his former religion.
He is an ex-muslim, or at least that is what he claims.
When I started reading FFI, he used to be amongst one of the most polite and respectful posters there, but since the past few months he has morphed into a hateful poster, a potty mouth. One of the reasons I do not post anymore there.
Regards,
Kafir.
Thanks mate, I totally agree with your opinion, see a Kafir and a Muslim are agreeing together
Take care
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Fri 12 Dec, 2008 8:18 am
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Kafir-Harbi wrote:
BMZ wrote:
No real ex-Muslim will ever talk so bad against his former religion.
He is an ex-muslim, or at least that is what he claims.
When I started reading FFI, he used to be amongst one of the most polite and respectful posters there, but since the past few months he has morphed into a hateful poster, a potty mouth. One of the reasons I do not post anymore there.
Regards,
Kafir.
Thanks mate, I totally agree with your opinion, see a Kafir and a Muslim are agreeing together
Take care
Thank you Kafir and Ahmed.
Salaams
BMZ
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Fri 12 Dec, 2008 11:41 am
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Kafir-Harbi wrote:
BMZ wrote:
No real ex-Muslim will ever talk so bad against his former religion.
He is an ex-muslim, or at least that is what he claims.
When I started reading FFI, he used to be amongst one of the most polite and respectful posters there, but since the past few months he has morphed into a hateful poster, a potty mouth. One of the reasons I do not post anymore there.
Regards,
Kafir.
Thank you, Kafir-Harbi
Salaams
BMZ
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Fri 12 Dec, 2008 11:43 am
AhmedBahgat Site Admin
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I chose again to reply to HM, but this is the last time for this subject, he will be back into the LD wing, if he wants me to take him out, he needs to appolgise to all Muslim members on this web site for his insults and low shots against them, do not think that I am being tough with him, look at what an FFI member said about him on my web site:
Kafir_Harbi wrote:
He is an ex-muslim, or at least that is what he claims.
When I started reading FFI, he used to be amongst one of the most polite and respectful posters there, but since the past few months he has morphed into a hateful poster, a potty mouth. One of the reasons I do not post anymore there.
Regards,
Kafir.
Therefore, appolgy is required to all Muslim members on FFI for me to forgive him:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
Iqraa or Itlu in Arabic do not mean all the times that you are reading something (a book or a paper), both are commonly used to mean, to READ BEHIND SOMEONE, i.e. repeating the words behind someone, or to READ FROM YOUR MIND, i.e. the words are memorised
Therefore, your argument is flawed and must be dismissed, because it is based on clear ignorance with the Arabic words. I told you that you only know the Arabic letters
Haik Monsieur wrote:
Ahmed Bahgat,
I urge you to quote your book in context if you want to put forward an argument. I understand you have not forgotten the past lesson where we debated on this. :*)
"Tilawah" can mean recite or read but you can not assign the meaning you want to the verses of Quran. If you want, come on, quote your book and argue. I quoted your Quran in context and proved my case. What about you doing the same?
Or are you still busy? You seem to be busy only when you do not have a proper answer.. :heh:
As I said there will be no debates between me and you while you are registered on the LD list, however I will offer one final reply to the subject, in brief, you are questioning the definition of the two Arabic words that I explained "Itlu" & "Aqraa", in which I stated that it also mean to read behind someone, like an instructor, this is what the hearsay hadith alleged that Mohammed was reading the Quran behind someone, but the hearsay hadith is inadmissible, therefore let's look at the Quran alone and see that the meaning I alleged is stated clearly in the Quran:
16- Do not move your tongue with it to make haste with it,
17- Surely on Us (devolves) the collecting of it and the reading of it.
18- Therefore when We have read it, follow its reading.
-> See: Do not move your tongue with it to make haste with it,, it can not be one who is reading from a book, rather one who is following another that is why the follower was trying to read quick to follow the instructor, the next verse clearly states that Allah (the Instructor) is the one who will be collecting it as well READING it: Surely on Us (devolves) the collecting of it and the reading of it., and when the instructor reads it, the follower should follow the words, that is exactly what the next verse is telling us: Therefore when We have read it, follow its reading., HOW CLEAR
Here you have it, what I said is confirmed with the Quran, this clearly confirms that Mohammed was illiterate who was following the reading of someone else who is ultimately Allah
Now, HM, you need to burry your pinhead in the sand for a few days. and I will not accept less than a public apology to all Muslim members on this web site before I resume normal dialogue with you
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Fri 12 Dec, 2008 11:29 pm
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What a coincidence, Ahmed! I just came to post the same thing and found it done.
It is worth keeping on record here. Haik Monsieur aka Haji Murad is a nut-case.
I think both Ali Sina and Haik Monsieur are Hindus.
Salaams
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Fri 12 Dec, 2008 11:58 pm
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BMZ wrote:
What a coincidence, Ahmed! I just came to post the same thing and found it done.
It is worth keeping on record here. Haik Monsieur aka Haji Murad is a nut-case.
I think both Ali Sina and Haik Monsieur are Hindus. :lol:
Salaams
Hey mate
Further to my comment above, which clearly confirmed that the words of Allah were put into Mohammed tongue. We read the same in the corrupt man made bible regarding the prophecy of Mohammed, let's have a look:
18: I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. [Deuteronomy 18:18-19]
-> See boys and girls of FFI how clear it is: and will put my words in his mouth then that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Here you have it, the Bible has spoken and the Quran confirmed the words spoken
That is how the Quran filters the man made corruption from the Bible
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Sat 13 Dec, 2008 7:52 am
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
BMZ wrote:
What a coincidence, Ahmed! I just came to post the same thing and found it done.
It is worth keeping on record here. Haik Monsieur aka Haji Murad is a nut-case.
I think both Ali Sina and Haik Monsieur are Hindus.
Salaams
Hey mate
Further to my comment above, which clearly confirmed that the words of Allah were put into Mohammed tongue. We read the same in the corrupt man made bible regarding the prophecy of Mohammed, let's have a look:
18: I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. [Deuteronomy 18:18-19]
-> See boys and girls of FFI how clear it is: and will put my words in his mouth then that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Here you have it, the Bible has spoken and the Quran confirmed the words spoken
That is how the Quran filters the man made corruption from the Bible
Yes, Ahmed.
I think the fellow Haik Monsieur, if he is a gentleman, should apologise. You did right by asking him to do so.
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